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Is it appropriate to use NHOID in this example where you are testing anti-RSV IgG antibody in the patient? The bug is not the subject of the observation, this is measuring host/subject immune response.

In the published examples where NHOID is used, observations are made and tests are run on the bug itself - the result tells you something about the bug:

  • is it susceptible to an antibiotics? (MS)
  • does it have some mutations in its genome or sequence changes? (GF)
  • can the antibody stop it from infecting cells? (IS)
  • For all of the above, you are running tests that directly impact the microbe, and the observations/assessments tell you something about the microbe, but not necessarily the host/subject.

In the below example, this is measuring the subject/host immune response (in antibody quantification/titer) toward a vaccine-delivered viral antigen, the observation is about the study subject and how he responds to the vaccine stimulation. It technically has nothing to do with the bug, it doesn't tell me anything about the bug. Having NHOID in this example is beyond the scope of how this variable is defined and used.

Question: Can we expand the scope of NHOID in this case? Why was the variable scope so limited in the first place, where were/are the concerns?


Without NHOID. Where do you map the info that the antibody targets (HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B, HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z) are actually from two different strains of RSV virus?

  • HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B is from Human respiratory syncytial virus MinA    
  • HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z is from Human respiratory syncytial virus (strain RSP112/Sweden/02-03)   
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Nameis
Dataset2

Row

STUDYID

DOMAIN

USUBJID

ISSEQ

ISGRPID

ISTESTCD

ISTEST

ISBDAGNT

ISTSTOPO

ISCAT

ISSCAT

ISORRES

ISSTRESC

ISSTRESN

ISSTRESU

ISSPEC

ISMETHOD

VISITNUM

VISIT

ISDTC

1

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

11

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

SCREEN

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITY

POSITIVE

POSITIVE



SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

2

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

21MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:25

25

25titer

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

3

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

12

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

SCREEN

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITYPOSITIVEPOSITIVE

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

4

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

22

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITY1:120120120titer

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

5

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

1
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:90

90

90

titer

SERUM

ELISA

2

VISIT 1

2017-07-27

6RSC1230IS

RSV1230-011

2
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY1:220220220titer

SERUM

ELISA

3VISIT 22017-08-27
7

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

1
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:140

140

140titer

SERUM

ELISA

2

VISIT 1

2017-07-27

8RSC1230IS

RSV1230-011

2
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY1:400400400titer

SERUM

ELISA

3VISIT 22017-08-27


With NHOID, but this is stretching the scope of this variable.

Dataset wrap
Nameis
Dataset2

Row

STUDYID

DOMAIN

USUBJID

NHOIDISSEQ

ISGRPID

ISTESTCD

ISTEST

ISBDAGNT

ISTSTOPO

ISCAT

ISSCAT

ISORRES

ISSTRESC

ISSTRESN

ISSTRESU

ISSPEC

ISMETHOD

VISITNUM

VISIT

ISDTC

1

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus MinA   

11

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

SCREEN

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITY

POSITIVE

POSITIVE



SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

2

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus MinA   21MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:25

25

25titer

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

3

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus (strain RSP112/Sweden/02-03)   

12

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

SCREEN

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITYPOSITIVEPOSITIVE

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

4

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus (strain RSP112/Sweden/02-03)   22

MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITYHUMORAL IMMUNITY1:120120120titer

SERUM

ELISA

1

BASELINE

2017-05-27

5

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus MinA   1
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:90

90

90

titer

SERUM

ELISA

2

VISIT 1

2017-07-27

6RSC1230IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus MinA   2
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN B

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY1:220220220titer

SERUM

ELISA

3VISIT 22017-08-27
7

RSV1230

IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus (strain RSP112/Sweden/02-03)   

1
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY

1:140

140

140titer

SERUM

ELISA

2

VISIT 1

2017-07-27

8RSC1230IS

RSV1230-011

Human respiratory syncytial virus (strain RSP112/Sweden/02-03)   2
MBIGGAB

Microbial-induced IgG Antibody

HUMAN RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS-PROTEIN Z

QUANTIFY

STUDY VACCINE-RELATED IMMUNOGENICITY

HUMORAL IMMUNITY1:400400400titer

SERUM

ELISA

3VISIT 22017-08-27